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@RobertEllsberg 2/3 Hereabouts, I suspect few, if any, will refer to Moltmann's explicit affirmation of the American experiment as the messianic experiment of modernity. An endemic, epistemological substrate of religious and political exceptionalism dictates a form of separatist blindness to it.

I believe that some people will have doubts here because in the future the liberation is not going to be ours; it will be other poeple who want to liberate themenselves – have to liberate themselves – from *us*.
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I believe that some people will have doubts here because in the future the liberation is not going to be ours; it will be other poeple who want to liberate themenselves – have to liberate themselves – from *us*.

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Nick Routledge@nick_routledge · 10 Apr 2024

@WaltBrueggemann A powerful, double resonance in this with Moltmann's emphatically US-centric take on "the messianic myth of the redeemer nation of the End-time," and also of messianic hope as "never the hope of the victors and the rulers [but] always the hope of the defeated & the ground down."

"In truth American nationalism is constituted by many peoples from many places of origin with all kinds of ethnic and national rootage. We are indeed, historically and practically, a mixed company clustered as a unity by a summons to “a more perfect union” that overrides and transcends all of our cherished particularities.” Walter Brueggemann
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"In truth American nationalism is constituted by many peoples from many places of origin with all kinds of ethnic and national rootage. We are indeed, historically and practically, a mixed company clustered as a unity by a summons to “a more perfect union” that overrides and transcends all of our cherished particularities.” Walter Brueggemann

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Quoted byRT @nick_routledge: @Plough @KenBurns “Greatest nation in the world”? That is empire speech, the myth of magnitude mistaken for moral rank—and the world hears it as idolatry even when we mean it as affection. America is a nation fiercely summoned by a planetary promise, and will be judged by the same measure.Quoted by@Plough @KenBurns “Greatest nation in the world”? That is empire speech, the myth of magnitude mistaken for moral rank—and the world hears it as idolatry even when we mean it as affection. America is a nation fiercely summoned by a planetary promise, and will be judged by the same measure.Quoted byRT @nick_routledge: @BrianZahnd Well, of course. That said, Jürgen Moltmann, the German theologian recognized as one of most influential Christian systematic theologians of the 20th Century and, furthermore, pretty much the 'de facto' global authority on Christian eschatology and messianism, would like a word.Quoted by@BrianZahnd Well, of course. That said, Jürgen Moltmann, the German theologian recognized as one of most influential Christian systematic theologians of the 20th Century and, furthermore, pretty much the 'de facto' global authority on Christian eschatology and messianism, would like a word.