Nick Routledge@nick_routledge
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@SophiaCycles 1/ And so it goes that the raging battle between science and religion is ultimately transcended in common acknowledgement of reality as not only stranger than we imagine, but stranger than we can imagine. Irony of ironies: wisdom harmonizes, as one, into increased bewilderment! x.com/covidyoga/status/1569399897060950016

At the same time, critiques of science as a "secular humanist" conspiracy bent on usurping religion's power to make sense of the world around us, are concomitant with science's own demolition of traditional notions of universal truth and objective reality, a process hastened along by Godel's incompleteness theorem, a cornerstone of modern mathematics that the mathematician Godfrey Harold Hardy defines as the assertion that "there exist meaningful mathematical statements that are neither provable nor disprovable, now or ever...because the very nature of logic renders them incapable of resolution." The philosophical implications of Godel's theorem are "devastating," according to Hardy.
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At the same time, critiques of science as a "secular humanist" conspiracy bent on usurping religion's power to make sense of the world around us, are concomitant with science's own demolition of traditional notions of universal truth and objective reality, a process hastened along by Godel's incompleteness theorem, a cornerstone of modern mathematics that the mathematician Godfrey Harold Hardy defines as the assertion that "there exist meaningful mathematical statements that are neither provable nor disprovable, now or ever...because the very nature of logic renders them incapable of resolution." The philosophical implications of Godel's theorem are "devastating," according to Hardy.

The mathematician and cyberpunk novelist Rudy Rucker, who delights in such bombshells, asserts, "Godel has shown that the fundamental logical notion of 'truth' has no rational definition." What's [more], Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, a precept of quantum mechanics, leads to the inescapable conclusion that the very act of observation affects the state of the phenomenon observed, an axiom that plays havoc with the notion of objective truth. "The age of absolutes, if it ever really existed, is now most definitely and permanently passe," concludes the mathematician John L. Casti. "Einstein's work buried once and for all the concepts of absolute space and time, while Heisenberg shot down the belief in absolutely precise measurement. Godel, of course, stamped paid to the quaint and curious ideas of absolute proof and truth."

Mark Dery
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The mathematician and cyberpunk novelist Rudy Rucker, who delights in such bombshells, asserts, "Godel has shown that the fundamental logical notion of 'truth' has no rational definition." What's [more], Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, a precept of quantum mechanics, leads to the inescapable conclusion that the very act of observation affects the state of the phenomenon observed, an axiom that plays havoc with the notion of objective truth. "The age of absolutes, if it ever really existed, is now most definitely and permanently passe," concludes the mathematician John L. Casti. "Einstein's work buried once and for all the concepts of absolute space and time, while Heisenberg shot down the belief in absolutely precise measurement. Godel, of course, stamped paid to the quaint and curious ideas of absolute proof and truth." Mark Dery

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Quoted by@PhysInHistory @holdengraber "The major heresy of the Western churches is that they have largely turned the very meaning of faith into its exact opposite. True faith involves not knowing and even not needing to know, but we made faith demanding to know and insisting that we do know!" @RichardRohrOFMQuoted byRT @nick_routledge: @CACRadicalGrace @RichardRohrOFM Indeed, the identical heresy of the scientific method or, as Thomas Berry encapsulates it, the "downward reductionism of the mechanists and the upward reductionism of the spiritualists.” No wonder the call for a New Reformation. A New Reconcilation, then? ?s=20&t=jygN9r6anfFtNTRziHKfyAQuoted by@CACRadicalGrace @RichardRohrOFM Indeed, the identical heresy of the scientific method or, as Thomas Berry encapsulates it, the "downward reductionism of the mechanists and the upward reductionism of the spiritualists.” No wonder the call for a New Reformation. A New Reconcilation, then? ?s=20&t=jygN9r6anfFtNTRziHKfyA